Countrywide ANPR PCN - PAPLOC - 10 mins Disabled Parking Spot - Failue to Register Vehicle - appeal refused - Kingswood Way Great Denham Bedford Bedfordshire MK40 4GH

[FTMDave]

Normally we don't advise playing your cards early in a snotty letter, but as you have appealed we might as well use what you wrote in the appeal against them.

There is no rush, you have until 6 July to get it to them.  See what the other regulars think too.

How about something like this? -

 

Dear Rachael & Sean,

cheers for your Letter of Claim.  I rolled around on the floor in laughter at the idea you'd actually thought I'd take such tripe seriously and would cough up!

As usual you'll have been too bone idle to do any due diligence.  Had you done so you would have seen that I appealed to your client.  Indeed the driver on the day is a textbook example of having done exactly what you should do when you do not wish to be bound by the T&Cs in a private car park.

Of course none of that mattered to the spivs you represent but do you really want to put such a useless case in front of a judge?

To be fair, your clients are very useful members of the human race - as comedians.  How I loved the page turner of their antics at The Citrus Building in Bournemouth.  It was chuckle after chuckle reading about them, letter after letter, month after month, insisting they were legally in the right, even through someone who had done just the first day of a GCSE law course could have told them they weren't.  Until the denouement - BOOM - an absolute hammering in court.  In fact - SLAM, BANG - managing to lose twice against the same motorist for the same car park in front of two different judges.

Your client can either drop their foolishness now or get yet another tolchocking* in court where I will go for an unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g) and spend the dosh on a nice summer holiday, while every day laughing at your clients' expense.

I look forward to your deafening silence.

COPIED TO COUNTRYWIDE PARKING MANAGEMENT LTD

 

*  This word is used under licence from Brassnecked

[FTMDave]

When you want invest in two 2nd class stamps and get two free Certificates of Posting from the post office.

[mrscsmith]

I just want to check a point. 

I dont believe there is a GCSE Law Course and hasnt been since 2018.
There is A Level law courses still existing. 

Only knew this as my daughter is just doing her A Levels exams this week and there was never a law option for GCSE.
Should it be changed to A Level or just "basic" law course?

Also why the names Rachael & Sean, - am I missing something here, as those names are not on the letter. 

 

[FTMDave]

Rachael and Sean are the two directors of the solicitors' company  https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/07966978/officers

Writing with the first names shows (a) you're not scared of them and (b) that you have CAG to back you up, as by now they must have worked out that the letters originate from here.

It doesn't really matter about GCSE law, write what you want, the point is just to ridicule their clients for being so incompetent in court.  Their win rate against Caggers is ...

... 0%.

[mrscsmith]

Thank You, will be posting today.

Do I have to send back their form to them saying "I Dispute the Claim" along with the letter?

Also the form asks for my telephone number and email address

- I dont want to give them those details do I have too? 

They have my name and postal address so want to leave it at that.

 

[FTMDave]

Don't give them your e-mail address, don't give them your telephone number and don't fill in their forms.

They send these things to pretend they are some sort of statutory authority.

In reality they are a disgusting cowboy company who use sixth-rate solicitors who can't get any other work so are reduced to doing everything on the cheap with no due diligence for private parking companies.

Your letter is meant to totally ignore their procedures and show you've sussed them for who they are.  From their point of view it would be better to drop you like a hot potato and instead concentrate on going after people daft enough to give in.

That's why I went on & on about their previous court humiliations, to show them that if they continue with you they'll just end up with another thrashing.

[mrscsmith]

OK just sending your letter then, thank you for the help and clarification.

[mrscsmith]

Hi Guys
Today I have received a new letter stating (Dated 20 June 24, received 26th):

We write in reference to the above matter.

Please note you have previously appealed this mattter with our client and your appeal has been rejected.  Please find attached appeal documents for your reference (Copied past correspondence).

Our clients position remains the same, the balance of £170 remains due and owing.

Should you wish to dispute this matter further please seek independent legal advice

Should you have any further queries please contact our offices on 0113 487 0430.

Yours sincerely

Edited June 26 by mrscsmith

[mrscsmith]

1) Firstly I have noticed the solicitors have done a soft search on my credit account - obviously checking if I can pay, not sure what info they get from a soft search!!

2) Do I ignore the above letter or should I reply with anything?

Thank You 

[honeybee13]

Hi, I'm sorry you were missed.

No need to do anything, you sit it out until or IF you get a Letter of Claim. By all means come back and check if you get anything else.

HB

[Nicky Boy]

The soft search is probably checkingyour current address. 

[mrscsmith]

Okay, I will await their next letter, thank you

 

[dx100uk]

look at a few PCN threads here already with PAPLOC or Letter of Claim in the title

and view the PDf file

then you'll know what one looks like

 

dx

[FTMDave]

Yours is not the next move.  Ignore the letter.

[mrscsmith]

Got this today do I just continue to ignore, just repeating I have to pay by 6 July or may be going court??

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We write to advise that your Letter of Claim is due to expire on 6 July 2024. The Letter of Claim is the formal notice issued prior to any commencement of legal proceedings to recover the outstanding balance of £170.00. At BW Legal we do want to work with you and prevent these legal proceedings, which is why we are sending this reminder prior to the expiry of the Letter of Claim.

The best way to prevent legal proceedings from being issued is to speak with us. We still have a pre-approved plan ready for you, but we can also discuss other payment options. If you are experiencing any financial or personal hardship, we can help you but only if you speak to us. Call us on 0113 487 0432 or if you want to speak with us via webchat, you can do so securely via our customer portal at portal.bwlegal.co.uk.

In the unfortunate event that a claim is issued and is not defended, should this remain unpaid this could lead to a County Court Judgment ("CCJ") being entered against you. Should a CCJ be entered against you, it will, where applicable, remain on your credit file and/or the Register of Judgments, Orders and Fines for up to six years and you may have difficulty obtaining further credit.

[FTMDave]

Again, yours is not the next move. You've told them to put up or shut up. So far they're doing the latter.

[dx100uk]

sounds like they didn't get your snotty letter? you did send it to BW legal?
dx

 

dx

 

[Nicky Boy]

Agree with dx. They're writing as if they've not heard from you.

Mind you, they aren't the sharpest tools...

[mrscsmith]

The last I wrote to them was the letter of June 11

then they replied sending me a copy of all correspondence which was a waste of time.

I didnt reply to their last letter as you advised.

I got a certificate of posting from the Post Office for the letter I sent.

I am following your instructions.  
 

[FTMDave]

Just to be clear - you did send the letter both to Countrywide and to BWLegal, right?

On 11/06/2024 at 22:25, FTMDave said:

COPIED TO COUNTRYWIDE PARKING MANAGEMENT LTD

 

On 13/06/2024 at 15:59, FTMDave said:

When you want invest in two 2nd class stamps and get two free Certificates of Posting from the post office.

 

[mrscsmith]

Yes was sent to both companies and got a postage receipt to prove it.

 

[FTMDave]

Well done.

Just sit tight then and ignore these latest letters.